Alright, that's it. I am tired of this goddamned discussion of morality. It's all horse shit and here's why.
The Christians say that morality and our sense of right and wrong comes from the Ten Commandments and then later the Bible. So, all pre-biblical people were fucked and spent their leisure time raping, stealing and murdering everyone all the time because they had no moral code?
No. It's a bullshit statement, so stop making it people!!!
The New Atheists all say, essentially, that we have just a sense of what is right and what is wrong. Some even say its just a "feeling". What the fuck is the difference between that and the "feeling" or "sense" that there's a God???? There is no difference, and these bastards who are supposed to be the figurehead of non-theist representation in govenment worldwide are making the same goddamned arguments the people they are fighting are.
Fire against fire doesnt work. So quit that shit.
Instead, when it comes to morals, don't point to books, scriptures, or theology. Point at a fucking eagle. Point at a snake. Point at some bears. Point at some bees.
According to the bible, the Earth was made for Man and Man was made to rule it. We were given a moral code. A set of rules to follow. Why is it that nobody brings in animals as the discussion's point??? Especially evolutionists! We come from animals, the people you are arguing against know this, why not use animals as your argument.
The fucking animals arent raping, killing, stealing, murdering each other. Yes animals do kill. Yes animals do rape. But not all animals do that, and in fact the majority of the animal kingdom only kills for food or in defense, only rapes to propogate its species, and only steals to survive. Again, this is not a constant thing in the animal kingdom, but that doesnt mean that its non-existent.
We need to start asking the Christians "Okay, well, without the 10 Commandments and the Bible, why are the animals not just wiping each other out? Why are they not destroying us? Or has God given them a sense of morality too? And if the animals have a sense of morality that arent written down, or taught to each animal, then why do we, as descendants of these animals, need it written down to???"
Why is THIS not brought up? EVER! It would allow the atheists to further prove that we have the same sense of well being as a group and an individual that animals do. However, this leaves the Christians having to figure out why. And if the simple answer is "well we didnt come from animals" then why arent the animals destroying us? or each other? why has no one species of animal obliterated another species and continued a path of destruction? "well God wouldnt allow that" well then, did God give the animals a sense of morality too? or does he just not allow any inter-species annihilation or any large-scale attack on the humans? and if he gave the animals a sense of morality, and they are less intelligent than ourselves, and can clearly grasp this sense of morality, then why did he leave us devoid of morality until Moses came along? did we not need it written down for us before then because we were nutty fucking savages? and if we had a sense of morality before Moses and the 10 Commandments, then what is the fucking point of the 10 Commandments and the Bible if we already had a pretty fucking good moral compass before Moses?
All I want to know is, why the FUCK this isnt the goddamned topic for debate when it comes to morality, instead the figureheads of the Non-theist movement default to saying we just have a "conscience" or a "feeling" of good and bad. Quit flaking on us guys, you are making yourselves look like hypocrites, and you are making the non-theist movement look like a fad. Organize together, have a discussion, and decide what your fucking answers are going to be AS A GROUP. Otherwise you are acting as splinter-cells and lose the look of a united front of a united cause.
You must describe, with science, morality. Do this.
You must describe transcendental states and 'peak experiences' in non-theological ways so that when people have such moments in their life, they don't turn to religion because it's the only thing that explains what their experiences are. Do this.
And you must stop fucking DEBATING everyone. These debates are not furthering the cause, but boosting your egos. Instead, grab a shitton of people to march on Washington or Parliament and demand representation. Organize sit-ins. Protests. Don't just throw money at funds and then retire to inflating your ego with another religious debate. FUCKING DOOOO SOMETHING! Get commercials on TV. Billboards. Protest sit-ins infront of churches. Demand that the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster recieve tax-breaks for all its members or the government is descriminating against their religious beliefs. SHOW THEM HOW FUCKING RETARDED THEY ARE AND HOW WE WILL NOT STAND FOR IT ANYMORE!!!
Do something. Selling books and t-shirts, and giving debates were all well and good to begin with, because it spread awareness about the cause. That's over. People know we are here. They know how numerous we are. But we are doing NOTHING to stop it. Lets quit doing more of the same by making youtube videos for us all to enjoy mocking the religious.
A great way to get shit done is to GET HOLLYWOOD BEHIND YOU! I fucking guarantee that there are people in hollywood who are nontheists who would love to march on Washington. This will bring even more people to help our cause.
Get together. Write a set of things out that needs changing. You are tilting at windmills if you think that you will eradicate all religion. No, the best thing you can do is start at getting equality and representation in government and then wait and cross your fingers that most prominent and supernatural-based religion will go away. There will always be crazy Scientologists and Haley's Commet cults getting some people's attention. It happens, and will never disappear.
So, stop debating and stop writing books, and stop putting and asking for money into secular funds. Raise money for EVENTS. Sit-ins. Protests. And to get people to washington to make themselves known. Imagine if you put a campaign together as big as Martin Luther King Jr. and every bit of funding you recieve went to plane tickets for people around the USA to fly to DC and protest and march on Washington.
If not, you are just wasting everyones time and hope that you will actually help to get anything done. It's time to get some shit done. To give explainations for ALL ASPECTS of life so that people who dont want to turn to religion, can get logical, and fact-based answers. No more "'god did it", let's be honest and not afraid to shrug our shoulders and say "we dunno yet". All of science is a fucking guessing game. THATS THE POINT! Why are we afraid to admit it? THATS WHAT SEPARATES US FROM RELIGION. IN THE FACE OF OPPOSITION OR A QUESTION WE CANNOT ANSWER WE CLAIM THAT WE JUST DONT KNOW, INSTEAD OF GIVING BULLSHIT DOGMA! Be proud of not knowing! It's what makes you ask questions in the first place. It's what separates you from just taking any shovel of shit any religion tries to feed you and accepting it. YOU ARE OKAY NOT KNOWING! THATS WHAT MAKES YOU AN ATHEIST/AGNOSTIC AND NOT A CHRISTIAN/MUSLIM/CATHOLIC.
I hope that somewhere on the internet, this gets seen by many people, and I hope that others can agree. Please, let me know if you are a non-theist of any kind and agree with what I've said here. And, please, if some religious nut starts quoting the bible, or ranting about the inaccuracy of this blog in the comments section, just don't give them the common decency of your time, patience, thought or emotion to respond to them. I will simply remove their comment, and we can try and keep to productive conversation here.
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